14sep11 Tkinter is for making widgets. See William Baker's example "sierp.py". Here we hope to discover if the Tkinter module will work for the Hippocket programs. http://www.pythonware.com/library/tkinter/introduction/ "An Introducation to Tkinter" by Fredrik Lundh (who invented Tkinter?) The strategy is to deconstruct Baker's Tkinter program using the journalling technique (i.e. commenting an interactive experiment). Stopped after a couple of hours because I still haven't discovered the first step .... draw a pixel. It looks like Tkinter.Canvas doesn't like "points", i.e. pixels. So Baker drew a tiny line for a pixel ... a kludge. But since we want visible "points" anyway, we'll probably end up having to draw a little filled rectangle (a "fat-bits" from the dawn of MacPaint) anyway. However, I stopped after not finding the primite way of drawing just a line. Checking out turtle.py didn't help because that is written at too high level to reveal the simplest way.